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Then Alypius said: 'I am grateful to you since you have satisfied Licentius and have relieved me of the burden which was placed upon me. more than I should have to fear if it were necessary for you to hand over the discussion to me in regard to any point. ' I said, 'I confess, indeed, that I am loath to do so. ' He replied, 'I should be tempted to believe that you wished to divert me from my dinner, if I did not rather think you were deterred from doing so by Licentius a little while ago and if his request had not demanded that an 20 Cicero expresses approval of the Stoic doctrine of suspension of assent.
Indeed not,' Licentius said. ' I said. ' VIII. 20. Then Trygetius said: 'It seems to me that the caution of the Academicians is far different from the foolishness of the man whom you depicted for us. ' 'As if, indeed, he would not be more foolish if he should say, 'Indeed, I do not know his father at all nor have I ever been told how much the boy resembles him; but still it seems to me he looks like him',' I replied. ' 'They say it is probable,' he said. I replied, 'How can you say that? " For it seemed to me that rumor rushed wantonly into your discussion since the Academicians would not even believe human eyes, much less, indeed, a thousand rumors, as the Page 44 poets fashion,29 but still they believe strange sources of illumination.
It is easy,' I said, 'for me to answer this question, especially since it is not unexpected. I have already considered this whole problem, and time and again my mind has been occupied with it. Therefore, listen, Alypius, to what you already know very well, I think: I have no desire to hold this disputation for the sake of arguing. Let that be sufficient which we practised beforehand with those youths, when philosophy willingly, as it were, joked with us. Therefore let those childish fables be removed from us.